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1 Also have a marriage date of 1675. Family: F588
 
2 Also have a marriage on 9 Sep 1896 (3 days difference). Family: F835
 
3 father of Etienne, which east names in the draft made by his uncles and his aunts, with , eleonore countesses of Auvergne, in 1285 Family: F679
 
4 From: "Diana Motyer" >
Subject: spencer/white/motyer
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:47:12 -0700

Hello List;

Looking for information on

Mary Foss WHITE md to Abraham SPENCER in 1862 Northwood, Isle of Wight

I have them in the 1881 census but looking for help with Mary Foss WHITE believed to be daughter of James WHITE and Mary Foss MOTYER .

Regards Diana Motyer 
Family: F945
 
5 From: "Richard W. Hinde" rwhinde@adelphia.net
Subject: Re: [DOR] Joseph Hinde
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 19:19:46 -0400
References: <000e01c5bfc5$261bdd30$0dd97ec7@Motyer>
In-Reply-To: <000e01c5bfc5$261bdd30$0dd97ec7@Motyer>

Evening Diana;

I have the following in my file for Joseph:

Joseph Motyer also joined the Navy and entered the submarine service. He
was based at Devenport Naval Dockyard, Plymouth and met his wife from
Saltash, just over the river in Cornwall. Duties included a spell on patrol
in the Baltic. Perhaps because of the unhealthy conditions in those early
submarines he fell ill and died of pneumonia aged only 32, having reached
the rank of Chief Petty Officer. His grave is in St. Stephen's churchyard
the old burial ground for the town of Saltash Cornwall.

Additional information:

Born: 19 March 1893, Portland
Died: 17 May 1925, Saltash, Cornwall
Married: Florance Dale, 22 July 1918, St Nicholas Church, Saltash
Her DOB: 31 Dec 1893, Saltash
Her DOD: 1 Oct 1982, Saltash

Children: Norman b. 6 Feb 1921; d. 20 Feb 2002 - Patricia b. 2 May 1924

This data was supplied by Norman's son Phillip.

Hope this helps.

Regards,
Richard Hinde 
Family: F944
 
6 From: "Richard W. Hinde" rwhinde@adelphia.net
Subject: Re: [DOR] Joseph Hinde
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 19:19:46 -0400
References: <000e01c5bfc5$261bdd30$0dd97ec7@Motyer>
In-Reply-To: <000e01c5bfc5$261bdd30$0dd97ec7@Motyer>

Evening Diana;

I have the following in my file for Joseph:

Joseph Motyer also joined the Navy and entered the submarine service. He
was based at Devenport Naval Dockyard, Plymouth and met his wife from
Saltash, just over the river in Cornwall. Duties included a spell on patrol
in the Baltic. Perhaps because of the unhealthy conditions in those early
submarines he fell ill and died of pneumonia aged only 32, having reached
the rank of Chief Petty Officer. His grave is in St. Stephen's churchyard
the old burial ground for the town of Saltash Cornwall.

Additional information:

Born: 19 March 1893, Portland
Died: 17 May 1925, Saltash, Cornwall
Married: Florance Dale, 22 July 1918, St Nicholas Church, Saltash
Her DOB: 31 Dec 1893, Saltash
Her DOD: 1 Oct 1982, Saltash

Children: Norman b. 6 Feb 1921; d. 20 Feb 2002 - Patricia b. 2 May 1924

This data was supplied by Norman's son Phillip.

Hope this helps.

Regards,
Richard Hinde 
Family: F944
 
7 I have Mary Foss MOTYER and James WHITE as being married 27 May 1832, in Northwood, Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England.

I have no idea why & how they show up as also having a connection to Northwood, Hillingdon, Middlesex (now Outer London), England. 
Family: F605
 
8 Marion Winnard was previously married (married name was Coutts) before she married John Dawson "Jack" Stopforth. Family: F742
 
9 Marriage Certificate MXA543409
Eliza, a spinster of Swyre, of full age, daughter of James Northover, a taylor, and Henry, a bachelor of Swyre, a sailor, of full age, were married in the Parish Church of Swyre, County of Dorset, England, by Rev. ...... the church Curate. Those witnessing the marriage were: Ephrain Motyer (able to write his name) and William Bishop (his mark). 
Family: F227
 
10 Marriage Certificate MXA571976
Anne, a spinster, of full age, of the Parish of Allington, daughter of Robert Stevens, a fisherman, and Ephraim, a batchelor of the Isle of Portland, a Mariner, of full age, son of Joseph, a carpenter, were married in the Parish Church of Allington, by Rev. Henry Fox the curate. Ephrain was able to sign his name while Anne affixed her mark X. Witnesses to the marriage were Henry Angel Motyer, and Eliza Northover. Henry, like Ephrain, was able to ascribe his name while Eliza affixed her mark. 
Family: F244
 
11 Not much info is given on the marriage certificate which seems strange, there is no mention of any parentsor occupation or anything. The minister was Joseph Hale of the Ireland Island Wesleyan Church and the witnesses were a Ralph D Wilson and an Emily D Wilson. Something about the marriage certificate does not seem quite right. (Percy's relationship to George Arthur would have been as a nephew. ) I do not know whether there were any children of this marriage or what happened but it does seem very odd. Family: F801
 
12 Royal Gazette 17 Jun 1879
Ephraim Motyer, a native of Bridport, Dorset, England, married Thompson Robinson Hollis, 2nd. daughter of O. C. Hollis, on Jun 5 in Pembroke, at the residence of the bride's grandmother, by Rev. E. B. Moore. 
Family: F55
 
13 Witnesses to the marriage were John Motyer Stone & Jane Motyer. This was a double ceremony with Elizabeth Motyer & John Carter also getting married. Family: F274
 
14 Witnesses to the marriage were John Motyer Stone & Jane Motyer. This was a double ceremony with Sarah Motyer & John Spicer also getting married. Family: F276
 
15 1860 United States Federal Census Record

Name: Catherine Motyer
Age in 1860: 26
Birth Year: abt 1834
Birthplace: Baden
Home in 1860: Ste Genevieve, Ste Genevieve, Missouri
Gender: Female
Post Office: Ste Genevieve
Value of real estate: View image
Household Members: Name Age
Andrew Motyer 36
Catherine Motyer 26
Philippine Motyer 4
Henry Motyer 2
Caroline Motyer 6.12 (months) 
Catherine
 
16 1901 Wales Census Record

Name: Elizabeth Motyer
Age in 1901: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Relation: Head
Household: View other family members
Gender: Female
Where born: Portland, Dorset, England

Civil parish: Penarth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Augustine
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Source information: RG13/4989
Registration district: Cardiff
Sub-registration district: Penarth
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Folio: 124
Page: 43 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 257 
Elizabeth
 
17 Name: Elizabeth Motyer
Arrival Date: 23 Jun 1908
Age: 40 Birthdate: abt 1868
Race/Nationality: British
Ship Name: Allanton
Port of Departure: Magdalena Bay, Mexico Via San Francisco, California
Port of Arrival: Astoria, Oregon
Microfilm Roll Number: M1777_6 
Elizabeth
 
18 1851 England Census Record

Name: Jane Motyer
Age: 50
Estimated birth year: abt 1801
Relation: Head
Household: View other family members
Gender: Female
Where born: Burton Bradstock, Dorset, England
Civil parish: Burton Bradstock
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View image
Source information: HO107/1861
Registration district: Bridport
Sub-registration district: Burton Bradstock
ED, institution, or vessel: 7a
Folio: 103
Page: 16 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 66
GSU Number: 221009 
Jane
 
19 1900 United States Federal Census Record

Name: Margaret Motyer
Home in 1900: New Orleans Ward 11, Orleans, Louisiana
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Birthplace: Louisiana
Race: White
Relationship to head-of-house: Wife
Occupation: View Image 
Maragret
 
20 (Research):Monumental Inscription from The St. George's Cemetary in Portand

Transcriber - Anon
Original positon of stone - unknown
Grave A85C OJoseph Motyer, a native of Swyre, ob. 4th Feb 1831 at 38 leaving a wife and
8 children
Jane his first wife ob 28th April 1823 at 28Elijah his 3rd son drowned in the river Suir Feb 1836 and buried at
Waterford at 16Thomas his 2nd son wrecked on the coast of Newfoundland and perished in the
ice attempting to reach shore. 1838 22.This stone was erected by Joseph his eldest son in respectful memory. 
ANGEL, Jane
 
21 Name Jane MOTYER Date 30 Apr 1823 Aged 27 Place Portland Description Wesleyan Methodist Denomination Methodist County code DOR ANGEL, Jane
 
22 At least one living individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. Living
 
23 After his mother's death, he and his brother Robert William APLIN were looked after by his mother's sister Emily Jane MOTYER and her husband William HUGHES. APLIN, Edward Motyer
 
24 (Research):Email from Sue (nee Aplin) Butchers on 01 Apr 2009:

I am pretty sure Joan Aplin's middle name was Lily, not Lillian. Her mother was Lily and she is listed on the ships manifest (the MV "Dumana" as Joan Lily Aplin when the family arrived back from Ceylon in Sept 1925. At the time Joan was 3 months old, which is why I think she was born in Ceylon (in those days, most families only came back on leave every 4 years or so). There certainly doesn't seem to be any record of her birth in England. 
APLIN, Joan Lily
 
25 After his mother's death, he and his brother Edward Motyer APLIN were looked after by his mother's sister Emily Jane MOTYER and her husband William HUGHES. APLIN, Robert William Edward
 
26 (Research):Stationed in Ceylon ( now called Sri Lanka) and while on leave back home; his first wife Lillian died of pneumonia. The youngest child, Dorothy was only 18 months at the time and William Edward was still working out in Ceylon. In order to have someone to look after the children, William married his wife's older sister ( who was then a widow) . Can safely say that this must have been something of a marriage of convenience and she returned to Ceylon with him and the two youngest children. The boys were farmed out to various relatives, William John know as Jack was brought up by Florence Motyer and George Motyer .
DEAT: CONC r
DEAT: FAMS @F022@ 
APLIN, William Edward
 
27 Stationed in Ceylon (now called Sri Lanka) and while on leave back home, his first wife Lillian died of pneumonia.
His youngest child, Dorothy, was only 18 months old at the time, William Edward was still working out in Ceylon.
In order to have someone to look after the children, William married his wife's older sister (who was then a widow). Can safely say that this must have been something of a marriage of convenience, and she returned to Ceylon with him and the two youngest children.
The boys were farmed out to various relatives. William John (known as Jack) was brought up by Florence Motyer and George Motyer. 
APLIN, William Edward
 
28 Ashes were scattered "at sea", in Southampton water, about 250 yards offshore from where his wife Beryl still lives. (31 Mar 2009) APLIN, William John
 
29 At least one living individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. Living
 
30 (Research):Details on the monument for grave number 24556

St George's Parish Church
Portland
Dorset

All the legible names shown on monument for grave number 24556:

Joseph Baker 59 1860 1919
Mary Motyer Baker 62 1868 1930 wife of Joseph Baker
Francis George Autridge Baker 30 1886 1916 son of Joseph Baker
Mary Isobel Baker 1 1899 1900 daughter of Joseph Baker

Please note that all ages and dates of birth have been calculated and are not on the monument.

You should treat the calculated dates of birth with caution as the ages given on monuments are often inaccurate.

http://www.gravestonephotos.com/public/gravedetails.php?available=yes&fullname=Mary%20Motyer%20Baker&grave=24556 
BAKER, Francis George Autridge
 
31 (Research):Details on the monument for grave number 24556

St George's Parish Church
Portland
Dorset

All the legible names shown on monument for grave number 24556:

Joseph Baker 59 1860 1919
Mary Motyer Baker 62 1868 1930 wife of Joseph Baker
Francis George Autridge Baker 30 1886 1916 son of Joseph Baker
Mary Isobel Baker 1 1899 1900 daughter of Joseph Baker

Please note that all ages and dates of birth have been calculated and are not on the monument.

You should treat the calculated dates of birth with caution as the ages given on monuments are often inaccurate.

http://www.gravestonephotos.com/public/gravedetails.php?available=yes&fullname=Mary%20Motyer%20Baker&grave=24556 
BAKER, Joseph
 
32 (Research):Details on the monument for grave number 24556

St George's Parish Church
Portland
Dorset

All the legible names shown on monument for grave number 24556:

Joseph Baker 59 1860 1919
Mary Motyer Baker 62 1868 1930 wife of Joseph Baker
Francis George Autridge Baker 30 1886 1916 son of Joseph Baker
Mary Isobel Baker 1 1899 1900 daughter of Joseph Baker

Please note that all ages and dates of birth have been calculated and are not on the monument.

You should treat the calculated dates of birth with caution as the ages given on monuments are often inaccurate.

http://www.gravestonephotos.com/public/gravedetails.php?available=yes&fullname=Mary%20Motyer%20Baker&grave=24556 
BAKER, Mary Isobel
 
33 (Research):Nether Cerne, Nr Dorchester, 28 August 1846
.... Mrs Motyer is increasing in mischievousness as the years increase. Bryant reports that although she has the Duke's allowance of 2s a week of pay beside she is pulling down the thatch and boards of the house in which he has her domiciled and burning them and he fears she will some day set him on fire as her cottage adjoins.
She has another freak at times when Bryant is away; she hires a cart and puts her bed and moveables into it and goes up to Swyre and attempts to take forcible possession of the as yet unfinished cottages, from which position a constable is always necessary to dislodge her. I have advised Bryant to take the necessary legal steps to remover her to the Union. The son is at present on some distant expedition but he occasionally appears for a day or two, commonly intoxicated; he beats his poor wife and then sets out again. I suppose he will not escape the law eventually though his cunning may save him for a time ..
(from J.B. Knight)


Bridport, 24th September 1846
Sir,At the request of Mr John Bryant of Barwick and at the suggestion of Mr J.B. Knight I am to write to you respecting a female called Patience Motyer. It appears that she has been some time residing in a cottage within the farmyard in the occupation of Mr John Bryant;- that notwithstanding repeated remonstrances, she will bring her bed down stairs and place it near to the fire place and endangering her own life and the whole farm buildings;- that her own clothes have caught fire several times in the last few weeks;- that Mr Bryant ordered his dairyman to bring two carts of coals for her use;- that she refused to receive the coals;- that Mr Bryant has supplied her with faggots & gorse to the full extent of her wants, but that she has pulled down all the thatch and timber even to the wall plate of two fuel houses near her cottage;- that under my advice Mr Bryant withheld her weekly pay in order to induce her to quit without further trouble, promising it to her on compliance; that Mr Bryant offered to pay 3/- a week to the woman's daughter Ann Coombs to receiver her into her cottage and take care of her. The daughter is willing to do this and treat her mother with affection but the mother refuses to live with her daughter. The woman applied for relief to the office of the Union and received an order to be admitted to the union workhouse but now refuses to go there. Considering it quite essential for the safety of Mr Bryant's family & the farm buildings occupied by him I advised him to proceed to obtain possession of the cottage under the Small Tenants Act & I find that he has obtained an order which will enable him with the assistance of a constable to remove the woman from the premises on the 6th of the coming month. Mr Bryant is a kind-hearted man & will I am satisfied do everything that humanity requires but it is essential to get rid of this troublesome old woman whose conduct keeps Mrs Bryant in a state of nervous excitement and compels her to sit up for hours at night watching the light in the cottage from a window in the Farm House.

I am sir,
Your obedient servant,
E Nichollets(Mr Bryant's solicitor)
(to Christopher Hardy esq.)



Bedford Office, Bloomsbury, August 7th 1849
Dear Sir,The Duke approves of Mr Barnes's estimate of £728 for the Six Cottages at Swyre as stated in Mr Barnes's letter of 2nd instant to you.
I am Sir,
Yours truly,
Christopher Hardy
(to J.B. Knight)

Dorchester, August 2nd 1849
Dear Sir,I find (on receiving Gale's list of prices*) that the cost of erecting the Six Cottages with porches, Back Buildings, Bakehouse with oven and table, including clothes posts, railing, carriage and all extras will be £728 at which some I will undertake to complete the work in a substantial and satisfactory manner.
The back foundations will require to be 4 foot deep.
I am sir,
Your obedient servant,
John Barnes
(to J.B. Knight)
*Gale was the mason at Swyre

This row of cottages is what is now 16-21 Swyre. The design was based on a design of the Duke's for some cottages on his estates in Bedfordshire. The design was changed, particularly at the instance of John Baverstock Knight, the Duke's under-steward in Dorset. The changes include replacing gable ends with a hipped roof offering more protection against the weather, and having each cottage with a separate entrance rather than one serving a pair of cottages. 
BAYLES, Patience
 
34 (Research):SHIPS PASSENGER LISTSSS Melita, Liverpool, England to Quebec Sailed 17 September to 25 September 1919
MOTYER, May M.A., 35, No, England, Calgary Alta.

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Email from Sue (nee Aplin) Butchers on 01 Apr 2009:

May Mary Ann Motyer returned to Southampton from Canada in Oct 1921 on the "Scandiavian" with her 10 month old son John ("Jack") Motyer. That puts his birth either end 1920 or early 1921. He is not listed in the England birth index for that period, so may have been born in Canada. 
BEAUMANN, May Mary Ann
 
35 1901 England Census Record

Name: Elizabeth Motyer
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1878
Relation: Wife
Household: View other family members
Gender: Female
Where born: Lancaster, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: South Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Innocents
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image
Source information: RG13/3671
Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Didsbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Folio: 69
Page: 38 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 274 
BECKETT, Elizabeth "Bessie"
 
36 (Research):Mary Jane's maiden name was BELLAMY. She was previously married (married name was WHITE) when she married Edward Stevens BOUCHER.

So, do I list her here as a Bellamy, or White? :-) 
BELLAMY, Mary Jane
 
37 (Research):Bishop's Transcripts - 1825 - 1848 Burials
Transcribed by Bob Stone from LDS Microfilm GS 1239224
Page 59 Mary Foss BENNETT dau of Joseph & Harriott Bennett Chissell 19 Jun 1825 2 weeks 
BENNETT, Mary Foss
 
38 At least one living individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. Living
 
39 (Research):Possibly John Bird living in Melcombe Regis 1901 census BIRD, John Whittle
 
40 At least one living individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. Living
 
41 At least one living individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. Living
 
42 At least one living individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. Living
 
43 At least one living individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. Living
 
44 (Research):n7a) St George's 'C' Originally near Map ref. n7 [linked with n7]
Transcriber: Monk
Note: Military stone with fouled anchor in relief
W J BOLLEN chief stoker RN 127602
HMS HERMIONE 22nd March 1916 aged 51

Also
St George's 'C' map ref. n 7 [linked with n7a]
Transcriber: Monk
In loving memory of WILLIAM JOHN BOLLENchief stoker RN HMS HERMIONE who died March 22nd 1916 aged 51 years
Also SARAH MOTYER wife of the abovewho died Jan 1st 1935 aged 70 years/Resting/Till we meet again
BOLLEN; William 51 27 Mch1916Grave reg C/3/19
BOLLEN; Sarah 96 4Jan1936 Grave reg C/3/19 
BOLLEN, William John
 
45 At least one living individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. Living
 
46 At least one living individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. Living
 
47 (Research):on the 1881 census
Joseph CARTER Head M Male 46 Portland, Dorset, England Quarryman Susan CARTER Wife M Female 42 Portland, Dorset, Engla Joseph CARTER Son Male 19 Portland, Dorset, England Quarryman Henry CARTER Son Male 17 Portland, Dorset, England Quarryman Susan A. CARTER Dau Female 1 Portland, Dorset, Engla

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Source Information:
Dwelling King Street
Census Place Portland, Dorset, England
Family History Library Film 1341508
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2107 / 40
Page Number 23 
CARTER, Joseph Motyer
 
48 (Research):Portland, St John The Baptist Church, Fortuneswell, Portland, Dorset Baptisms 1847 - 1880
1024, 1 Nov 1857, Joseph, son of Joseph Motyer & Elizabeth, CARTER, Fortuneswell, Quarryman, Page 128 
CARTER, Joseph Motyer
 
49 (Research):ON THE 1881 CENSUS

Source Information:
Dwelling Mallams
Census Place Portland, Dorset, England
Family History Library Film 1341508
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2107 / 40
Page Number 23
Edward WAY Head M Male 55 Portland, Dorset, England Trinity Pilot Mary J. WAY Wife M Female 50 Portland, Dorset, Engla Elizabeth A. WAY Dau U Female 22 Portland, Dorset, England Dressmaker Alice A. WAY Dau Female 17 Portland, Dorset, England Apprentice (Dressmaker)

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1861 census

62; Chiswell; Edward; WAY; Head; Married; 35; Pilot; Portland; RG9/1351/F56p13
Mary J.; WAY; Wife; Married; 30; Dressmaker; Portland; RG9/1351/F56p13

Mary J.; WAY; Daur 8; Scholar; Portland; RG9/1351/F56p13
Elizabeth A.; WAY; Daur 2; Scholar; Portland; RG9/1351/F56p13

Edward; WAY; Son 4m Portland; RG9/1351/F56p13
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Baps
699, 12 Dec 1852, Mary Jane, dau of Edward & Mary Jane, WAY, Chiswell, Pilot,
842, 18 Feb 1855, Elizabeth, dau of Edward & Mary Jane, WAY, Chesil, Pilot, Page 105
981, 15 Feb 1857, Elizabeth, dau of Edward & Mary Jane, WAY, Chiswell, Pilot, Page 123
265; 25 Feb 1872; Edward; son of Edward & Mary Jane; WAY; Fortuneswell; Mariner; Page 34 
CARTER, Mary Jane
 
50 (Research):on the 1881 census
Richard Carter Head W Male 41 Portland, Dorset, England Quarryman Rebecca CARTER Daur Female 15 Portland, Dorset, England Scholar Susan CARTER Daur Female 13 Portland, Dorset, England Scholar Elizabeth CARTER Mother W Female 73 Portland, Dorset, England Annuitant

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Source Information:
Dwelling King Street
Census Place Portland, Dorset, England
Family History Library Film 1341508
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2107 / 39
Page Number 22 
CARTER, Richard
 

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